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Ice Cream - China
Any source on the invention
of ice cream in China?-- [User:Dante Alighieri],
7 Nov 2002
A number of websites, include
USA Today's Q-and-A, About.com, and ice-cream.org reported
a story that ice
cream was made during the time of King Tang of
the Shang Dynasty, and the ingredients included buffalo milk,
flour, and camphor. But these English pages all confused the
king's personal name, Tang, with the Tang Dynasty.
I'm not familiar with food
history, and I haven't heard of this story or the likes of
it in meatspace. --Menchi 10:58 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Considering the essentially
total absence of dairy products in traditional Asian cuisine,
and the much higher percentage of Asians who are lactose intolerant,
the China-as-origin-of-ice-cream theory seems highly suspect
to me.tooki 06:40, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
St, Louis World's Fair
The revelation of the ice-cream
cone at the St. Louis World fair in 1904 is incorrect.
It was available in the 1880s in Britain, but I have to research
it before changing the details. Mintguy
Squirrel ice cream
SQUIRREL icecream? Is this
somebody's idea of a bad joke? Also, is it true that British
'icecream' has no dairy in it anymore? It's interesting to
see how this article has grown since I made it so long ago
:) KJ 00:41, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Isn't that just the traditional
childhood mispronunciation of fudge swirl ice cream? Personally,
I think the worst flavour is liver ripple. - Nunh-huh 00:46,
23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I removed the squirrel thing.
Even if there is such a thing, it is POV to state it is the
worst. I'm not sure how true the statement about icecream
in Britain is. Icecream here does contain vegetable oil, but
I'm not sure if that is completely instead of any dairy product,
or in addition to it.  says "hydrolysed palm kernel
oil... is used by about 70% of ice cream makers in this country",
but doesn't say that dairy is not used, although  says
"In Europe for production of ice cream are used vegetable
fats that completely replace milk fat and only for making
dairy ice cream is used milk fat". Angela. 22:11, Feb
23, 2004 (UTC)
I would like to object to
the use of Sherbet in this context, as in the UK and elsewhere
it means something really quite different. Could a more neutral
term be used instead?
The Persians Didn't Invent
If one's writing a cute little article for some periodical,
then I'd say it's appropriate to call the Persians the inventors
of ice cream, because one can be sloppy about the definition
and...anyway...it's surprising and fun.
But when writing an encyclopedia
article, "they mixed ice with some fruit juice"
doesn't count as "ice cream".
A precursor of ice cream,
definitely. Deserves to be mentioned in this article, sure.
But was it actually ice cream? No. It wasn't even "made"
in the sense of sherbet...it wasn't a liquid which was slow-frozen
while being stirred, to give it a softer texture than ice.
It was more akin to snow
cones; ice with fruit juice on it. Kaz 18:05,
1 Feb 2005 (UTC)